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Warning BDO block drop rate for some players

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Eran420, Jun 15, 2020.

  1. Vortexii

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    While many of their stats have been hidden and some convoluted there isn't enough evidence to suggest specific programming that would alter things like drop rates based on an account. It would actually be absurd to even tie any account number or variable into the formulas.

    The hidden enchant rates where just that. Not disclosed. Nothing fishy was ever discovered in the process.
    The Kutum hidden bonus makes reasonable sense. A PVP vs PVE type weapon that is very common.
    Even the class based variables in PVP damage makes sense. It was a way to alter and make quick balances without affecting PVE performance.
     
  2. Claydough

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    Has somone told him about agris buff yet?
     
  3. Boink

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    Just like in real life? Some players win a 1 million dollars in a slot machine, or winning the lottery twice or getting hit by lightning 7x. Nothing out there will give you an "average" and there are no "justice" on a game of chance. You can hit your pen one tap others will have 400 fs. The best solution I can find is this. What's really true is that if you managed to win on x percentage someone out there loses and has the potential to lose consecutively giving you the mathematical truth of 3-6 players of every 100 to win, 1 out of 100 to win, 1 out of 292 million, 1 out of 700k and so forth. The population correlates with the percentage of winning or hitting. Same application why Casinos are making an actual profit.

    Just the same as someone not hitting a distortion earring and believe he was blocked while others got 3 in a row in less than 10 minutes, or getting the duo distortion (like me :) )
     
  4. Stealthe

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    Of course their isnt evidence...it will all be disregarded as just bad rng and no testing can prove otherwise.Thats why I can only go off the hidden things that have been found.That and their blatant use of weighted rng for cron stones and mem frags and rng boxes like the current Oasis dream chest,dark rifts and others that share the trait.True rng most players would sit near the average however in this game most players end up in the extremes...either they tend to be given things with little effort or they have to scratch and claw their way for months/years and still may never get it
     
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  5. Vortexii

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    You don't have to accuse the casino's of selectively targeting specific people. Every game/aspect is already rigged in favor of the house. BDO's system's are no exception. You are supposed to fail, at essentially everything important. You are supposed to fail repeatedly and often. Success is the rare gem only because it's mandatory lol.

    All the arguments above have just been shattered btw with that single sentence.

    Also, there are private servers and miners. It would be more likely to find out success calculations are not always accurate. Naturally in the sloppy Pearl Abyss fashion there are specific errors all over the place. An example would be Val Cry not applying the correct benefits etc.
     
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    Troll post please ignore.
     
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  7. LeCordonBleu

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    Do people in these forums know how to read and process the information properly before they start typing? The first 5 or so comments I read are talking about rare item drop rate, commenting further saying it's RNG.

    The key information is this:
    Which is quite intriguing, granted OP is telling the truth.
     
  8. Eran420

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    if that was troll it wont get 5 page in no time :)

    i didnt mean about the rare item drop rate . i just post my time without drop anything but its all about trash loot . spread sheet aint lie !
     
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  9. Boink

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    There are events in my life that I believed the game rigged me. Losing 3 aces in one night and losing 10 grand in one day. I think back then when i was gambling I thought the game "owes" me because I lost x amount. Now I'm smarter and try to avoid personal bias.

    Enhancing, drop rates etc and discussion of an "average per hour" or "game owes you" x because of y amount of attempts or hours is derived from personal bias. Just have to accept the lower the percentage that means the lower the community of players that are "winning". If they win they are part of that percentage. Even at a range of 50-50 is difficult to achieve a winning rate. Look at casino's 51% (1%-2% house edge). That's the population of players who will lose in every repetitive motion or bets, 48-49% will come home with actual winnings.
     
  10. Vortexii

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    That is very true.

    However, recently in Last Epoch I was enchanting items that stated 90% and higher success rate, but I was failing frequently. One fallacy to avoid is the multiple attempts (which wasn't happening here). That would be succeeding at 97%, 94%, 91%, 88%, then failing at 85% and thinking wow I failed an 85% how unlucky. Meanwhile the totally of risk was much higher.

    Anyway with over 90% chances it would be VERY rare to see so many failures. I'm not 100% convinced yet, but that could potentially be incorrect coding. I would have to see it continue to happen to really conclude anything. Most of the enchanting there seemed fine.

    I do really question BDO's displayed success rate vs the actual calculation though. It feels like if I could get bet on failure every time I saw 55-65% success rate I would be stealing. Meanwhile the stats say I should never lose that bet long term.
     
  11. reconkangas

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    I would have to agree with OP on this.
    I have kinda run into the same problem, Stars End i think is the main part of this conversation. Junk drops there go from 1-6 based what mobs you kill. The problem is not that we are not getting trash loot but the actual trash loot amounts that should have an average Seem to be not only a bit on the low side(my avg last night using just pick up method no pets I did avg around 2.25 per out of the 200 mobs I tested) but ALSO the amount of mobs actually dropping loot itself is low.
    I should do video of this and post but it looks to me roughly only 40-50% drop loot in some cases 3-4 out of 10 drop.
    This above is also low for some reason as well there is no significant change in game other than agris.
    The 1st issue affected my junk drop amounts the 2nd issue of how many mobs actually drop will affect both junk and a chance at a rare drop.

    Like I said I am doing my best including asking guild members to participate in some statistics gathering. But something as simple as 10-20% mob drop i.e. 1 or 2 less mobs drop loot would significantly affect rare and over all junk drop amount.
    This i would think is the biggest culprit meaning mob drop chance has been altered about 3 to 4 weeks ago. And or something changed account wise to and including level change of charecter used.
     
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    Frend :

    1. Lootscrolls dont work ( only 100% many of the trash work , the 100% or 50% lootrate dont work , over 1 year testing )
    2.Nodes +over 10 got the same rate as +0 is not work to ( same testing 1 year )
    this is the taktik if u need to buy from shop for faster more money !!!
     
  13. reconkangas

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    As far as I am understanding they fixed the lv10 node drop rate issue some time ago
     
  14. Helosh

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    not the 10 i mean 10+ or 9+ all over this lvl got the same droprate with +0 and this is 100% testing , i dont know why bdo this ignore and lose more and more player , i dont want just buy and buy from shop for money , the gametittle told me free to play not free to buy -.-
     
  15. Fearless V

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    It's free to play, pay to compete in PvP. And since BDO has open world PvP you kinda want to be able to compete. If you have a issue with that you are playing the wrong game.
     
  16. Kargor

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    I got 100% drop rate on trash (with luck level 5 and eco knowledge 20%, however the eco knowledge is sometimes bugged and does not apply at all). My big guess is that SE trash loot drop rate is always 100%.

    https://community.blackdesertonline...ng-since-05-08-19-update.444426/#post-2114536
     
  17. Kaitreen

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    This is the biggest load of garbage I've seen in awhile. Yes, RNGs by computer are not "really" random. They can be manipulated by their creators of the software. But to make each account roll a dice on creation to determine it's luck is the absolute dumbest, most awful financial decision on a gaming product a developer could do. I've no reason to believe they would create this, maybe zodiacs, but not account creations.

    There are times where the RNG is performing poorly. The best way to overcome this is wait. Play another day. Time is tied to RNG on computers because of packets sent and how many processes the server is manipulating at that time.
     
  18. Naho

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    5 pages around some bs doesn't make your thread not look like a troll .. As for now, you just made ppl talk about things they "assume" , not things they can prove , just like when they assume the **** we are gonna get in the future and how BDO will die tomorrow since 2 years .
     
  19. chendu

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    If you'd bother to read a bit He didn't do agris at all and that's kinda one of his point
     
  20. The_Lord

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    why is there even 5 pages for this bs ? you are just bad at the game , git gud
     
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