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What do KaKao have to compete with BFA?

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by Flowerxl, Aug 2, 2018.

  1. nolasigns

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    One of you money changers post some costume love for us not a trap ninjas for a change.
     
  2. WSYNC

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    13 PAGES?

    played wow, gw2, tera and to not make a list all major MMOS, both barely alive and dead atm, even ESO I gave a FAIR shot after grinded hundreds of those paragon like points and let me let you BDO is a **** ing god send even after the shi tty cash shop, its unique, untmatched and could me so much more if PA knew how to do it, sadly they dont but theres no alternative out there atm.
     
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  3. Chan_Yeong

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    LoL i came from Age of wushu aswell, i was on HeavyCloud Guild just in case you remember that guild, my name on Age of Wushu was YulMing some ppl maybe still remember me, i bought Mozi Sword set for 3 euros (one of the most OP skills set in the cash shop and still was worst than Wudang maxed skills wich was totally Free) and the monthly subscription was 7 euros if my memory dont fails me, i did all that transactions with my phone by text message cause the little amount of money allowed that system, wich is nothing compared to the 20 bucks you have to pay for a value pack on BDO cause you cant buy 1500 pearls you need buy 2000, or 50 bucks for the 90 days one, i had to get a credit card cause the minimun transaction on BDO its to big to pay by phone and only allows credit cards, and BDO dont has 1 subscription, it has 2. The Mervs palette and the Value pack. Mate in Age of Wushu i spent 20 euros in 2 years and got tons of super cool skill, while in BDO i spent more than 600 euros the first month and i have nothing but convenience garbage wich almost mandatory just to keep up. IDK what you mean really.....in Age of Wushu the last year they give that red cards with 50 to 200 Liangs of VIP currency EVERY WEEK, with what i bought cool cash shop items and skills, while in BDO the best reward on a event was that koi fishes who give nothing but ingame non-vip currency and a glasses made of candy.

    Age of wushu is one of the best MMOs never done, it has 8 kungfu schools with more than 300 skills each one, it has flying skills in all classes like Lahn but in EVERY CLASS, its has 8 PVP FACTIONS meaning ppl could be red player, chaotic, hero, or something between each depending of his karma and what kind of players you kill, player killed each other for a reasson more interesting than a grind spot, you had school wars, karma wars, guild wars, massive wars and small scale PVP, jailing and public EXECUTION system with jail breaks and police players trying to you dont go out jail, housing, npc amity or even marriage system, i even had my wedding there with more than 300 players of my guild cheering up for me, i remember i got drunk and vomited at the door of the chapelle while my wife was talking with other girls in other room, while in BDO i have 4 friends, one only talk about money/stats, the others only care about PVP, and the last one do some casual RP with me. You can be sure in the moment Age Of Wushu 2 come to the market i m selling my BDO acc and moving back o the dramatic but beautyfull world of Age Of Wushu.
     
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  4. Chaos Ronin

    Chaos Ronin RyunokoDynasty Mystic 61 NA

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    I do miss wushu and it was a game that could have been the best MMO ever! The Dev's were too greedy and you must have played a long time ago and never wanted to be competitive in the game. Ancient sets were needed to be at the top or even mid-tier and infact even the most needed Ancient skill (Ancient Taichi Fist) would cost you 2D for 1 frag ($60) and above. Needing 10 frags to get up to level 3 out of 12 levels... That alone is $600 for 1 skill to level 3 of a set of what 8 skills? Which most people had the rage at least to level 6, which would be $1200 for a single skill halfway to maxed level, whereas after that wasn't it 15 frags and the demon pills to go 2 levels? That was a cheapish Ancient skill @@. Cash sets ended up costing $300 i believe because you could only get them as a topup reward if you spent that much and the decent ones that were being resold by Snail were only obtainable as a topup reward of 20Ding, which was and still is $600 @@ Just take a look at this http://www.ageofwushu.com/news/view/887.

    Btw, i do remember Heavycloud :D
     
  5. Haydenmango

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    LOL

    BDO is headache inducing trash compared to WoW graphically. At least WoW graphics have smooth FPS/LOD when you move through the world while BDO is like this:



    Sure, BDO looks better than WoW as long as you don't look 50 feet into the distance at the nintendo 64 LOD textures/models or try to move anywhere at all. Literally just search "BDO pop in" then search "WoW pop in" and compare the results. BDO looks like it was meant to be played by someone who literally just stares at their characters tits all day since thats the only thing that renders in full resolution consistently.... and at that point you might as well just go watch porn instead.

    All these normie gamers should stay away from actual games and go back to their mobile phone games because theyre turning everything that has potentional to be a decent game into an afk cash shop.
     
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  6. Chaos Ronin

    Chaos Ronin RyunokoDynasty Mystic 61 NA

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    So....... Go play WoW?

    Also, if you try to play BDO on the highest settings and do not have the hardware to do so. Of course that will happen D: WoW is obviously developed with people playing on low-end rigs in mind. I'm fortunate enough to have a very high spec rig that can handle BDO maxed out and be between 80 - 100fps, so i do NOT experience that what you showed in the youtube clips.
     
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  7. Chaos Ronin

    Chaos Ronin RyunokoDynasty Mystic 61 NA

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    @Hydenmango This legit looks like a mobile game from 2008, who you trying to kid? lol

     
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  8. Haydenmango

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    I'll play whatever I want thank you very much.

    If you can't see BDO pop in then you are literally blind. Even on highest settings its extremely noticable. Who are you trying to kid?

    That WoW video looks fine? What makes it look like 2008 to you?
    Also notice how everythings fully rendered in those videos and looks nice and smooth like I was trying to explain. BDO doesn't and is an absolute mess to look at by comparison. examples:



    Also, I wish we had competitive arenas for 2v2, 3v3, 5v5 (random skirmishes/premade groups/ranked) like WoW does instead of the shitty gimmicky 5v5 arena that's actually a 1v1 arena with lots of downtime that BDO has.

    Edit: You don't seem to have a good enough memory of 2008 mobile phone games please tell me which one looks anything like that WoW video:
    http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Mobile/Top+10+mobile+charts/feature.asp?c=10621
     
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  9. Chaos Ronin

    Chaos Ronin RyunokoDynasty Mystic 61 NA

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    I agree with you on the 2 v 2, 3 v 3, 5 v 5 arena's for sure, but saying WoW looks better than BDO (if that is what you are trying to say) is insane. The only reason WoW may be smoother is because the graphics are old, crappy and very dated. It doesn't look any better than say.. Kungfu Panda, which is in fact a mobile game. Also, you are free to play anything you want of course, i never said otherwise. @@
     
  10. Haydenmango

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    No I said:
    " Sure, BDO looks better than WoW as long as you don't look 50 feet into the distance at the nintendo 64 LOD textures/models or try to move anywhere at all. "

    You are extremely wrong about WoW having old, crappy, and very dated graphics. The graphics are actually beautiful if you max the settings and can appreciate the painted/cartoon styling rather than the realistic style of BDO. What I was pointing out is that WoW handles LOD 100000000x better than BDO does and the result is a much smoother looking game overall. BDO has higher resolution textures on nearby models but after a certain distance when the LOD kicks in the texture/model resolution is just as bad if not worse than it is in WoW.

    Wait, you think that WoW looks like this -

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    That game is a 2D side scroller LMAO
    Not sure if you are just trolling or not at this point but this is pretty entertaining.
     
  11. Chaos Ronin

    Chaos Ronin RyunokoDynasty Mystic 61 NA

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    Fair enough, i was tired at the time of that reply and you are entitled to like/dislike anything :) I'm pretty sure you can increase your draw to see far away object rez much higher LOD at farther distances (if your rig can handle it) https://gyazo.com/de83f674c7d631eaa15bd7a91f27a8a6

    Also, i said kungfu panda but meant Taichi Panda, my bad haha.
     
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  12. Hr1s7i

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    Being f2p however, will. Unless you have an alternative as to how the cash shop should look like and yield the exact same amount of money per month, with the exact same amount of work put into it, you'll just have to suck it up.
     
  13. WoWisBest

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    But BDO isn't f2p lol. F2P + P2W is the most cancerous thing that has infected the MMORPG genre and BDO (despite being labelled as a B2P game) is keeping on pushing the P2W limits with every update to cash shop. Why is that?
     
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  14. Fearless V

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    Because they can't get people to continue buying the game. And they still have to make money somewhere. So it might as well be the cash shop going P2W.

    Remember BDO and it's community is Anti-Newplayer. So it has to charge it's vets more and more to make up.
     
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    Perhaps, tho they do update their engine like they did with BFA recently, and you can actually see differences, so outdated or not, it still holds its own imo.

    Sure BDO looks good, probably better after the revamp that's coming, but the load times sometimes, even on SSD is sad.
     
  16. Motoko_Shi

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    I have seen ass-hatted mobile games with true p2w cash shops that are trillions of times more predatory than the Pearl Shop.

    Seriously, no one who plays BDO gives half a squirt about WoW players' handwringing about how their game's graphics are so "smooth, painted" or w/ev.

    The only reason to come into another game's forum to say your game is better is because you are worried it isn't.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  17. Jaeger

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    Played wow for years and since bdo release i give a fu** to wow and their players and devs.
     
  18. Watercooled

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    Who cares about WoW, it's for people who still use ham radio...

    Seriously what kind of loser that can't let go of old **** still plays that game? The only person I know from that game is some old co-worker that left his entire family for some e-girl he met in his guild. Dude had a wife and like 3 kids, his wife took care of herself too.

    The e-girl he met weighs like 220lbs and is gross as can be. They live in a trailer and play wow all day...total life melt down. That game is seriously for losers. I bet reality kicked in and he realized miss elf queen is more like miss dump truck and dude has to be straight miserable.
     
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    Ill throw my opinion here as of a MMO gamer for 20 years.
    1st, the concept of P2W is different from player to player. I think that p2w is something that you can buy with money and cant get playing the game. BDO is at the very edge of it, the only thing that saves it is the market that allows you to buy pearl items (I know guys that didnt spend a penny on this game and are top geared players).
    Weight is not p2w because game gives you alternative to buy with loyalties and its enough
    Inv slots are enough if you make the quests and have VP
    Pets can be bought with silver (20 mins of grind and you get enough silver for a pet, and you do not need high tier pets to be competitive - endgame grind spots takes time to kill mobs and t1 are ok), also events
    Costumes you can snipe, its cosmetics and dont yell at me uhhh stats...its 20% exp... You can get lvl 60 in 1 week...
    I tryed WoW for like 2 weeks but the graphics, combat, recycle dungeons and gear killed my enthusiasm.
    I really dont like playing a game then suddenly all my progress of probably half an year its useless next patch (this thing made me leave Tera also). Some ppl say WoW has good PvE... Its just 2-3 dungeons that you spam daily. Here in BDO you have a lot of grindspots, you pvp while grinding a lot and also you can do a lot of other activities. Some people may enjoy that sailing :pepelaughs:.
    BDO is not perfect, has imbalance between classes but this is because endgame pvp is large scale, every class having a different role (well except wiz and witch that are just healbots and spam blizzards hahahaha)
    You cannot compare a themepark mmo with a sandbox one because it has different styles of play.
    To summarise, BDO is not p2w in my opinion, but its on the edge of becoming and has the best graphics out there (come on lets be honest you cant compare it with WoW 2000 graphics...). Pvp is ok, I really dont like that static tab target crap that its older than my granny :) i do not say WoW is crap, but its to old. Come on its fking 2018 have some confidence in that GTX 1080TI and put it at some good use :)
    Peace :)
     
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    WoW is still a great game and the graphic are good but the unrealistic graphic style is unappealing to a lot of people in today's world.
    WoW has better class balance and the dev team there is also more responsive, but the combat is too boring after youve been to bdo.
    In WoWs combat ure constantly waiting for cooldowns and global cooldown is restricting ur ability to react.

    In BDO we have no global cooldowns but animation locks which feel much more comfortable with skills having multiple hits thus making sense for longer animations. Animation cancels, animations flows etc.
    BDO combat has insane potential, enough to rule the mmo world. The downside is that PA devs have no idea what to do with it and are too money hungry in short term blocking the game from becoming rank 1 mmo.

    Gearing also used to be fine before the renown and ap scaling changes. Now its beyond retarded.
    Now ur character is useless until u reach 250+ AP.
     

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