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What keeps you playing?

Discussion in 'General Gameplay' started by [496]SwordBreaker, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Factorial

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    I think the game is just amazing. When you have been playing MMOs this long, it's refreshing to see innovation. Despite all the bad business practices, BDO has brought in a fresh spin to the genre. It's different, unique.

    That uniqueness keeps me playing everyday even if it's only an hour that I can spare that day.

    Let me also make it clear: the constant unhappiness of the forum doesn't translate into in-game reality. The fact is that tons of people enjoy the game for what it is and don't complain about what it could have been despite that BDO could have been the best MMO for decades.

    Once you come to term with that distinction, you just enjoy the game for what it is and nothing more.
     
  2. zeezero

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    I keep playing because I have invested significant time in my character.
    There is no MMO that can currently compare graphic wise or combat.
    I basically am just a crate bot at this point and grind very little.

    I will jump ship immediately once a quality NA MMO is released.
    I will never play another Korean MMO.
     
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  3. nolasigns

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    I hear you there, on the Korean thing. However, I'll assume that you're more inclined to be dissatisfied with a P2W perspective? I agree to a point, but still feel as though (speaking as a former Asian gaming genre p2w player) BDO is on the extreme light version of p2w. For me, p2w would mean me paying X amount, and the common player base never is able to get Y gear level. And what I pay for had better have one shot capabilities if I exceed the thousands threshold in currency. That's never the case in BDO.

    My biggest gripe in all platforms from all regions is unfinished character development capabilities. One of the strong-suites of MMORPG is the player developing their character into the strongest they can. Rather it be through gear, levels, a complex skill/attribute system or a combination of all of that. But most of all, learning your class' abilities and overcoming all obstacles. Perhaps I am just a cynical old gamer from a time where they once upon a time, released classes that stayed the same till the end of the life of that game. No amount of forum bitching changed them, but this new trend among gaming companies, and its player base, where they release a class and then change it every few weeks is complete garbage. It's not exclusive to Korean, or other Asian games, either. I quit games like Neverwinter, GW2, and so on because after time, and even money invested, the companies took it upon themselves to completely alter my class into an entirely different playstyle. Just to be clear, I'm no fan of playing FOTMs for an easy win. I'm generally an underdog class player.

    BDO certainly isn't immune to that. I've played pretty much every class on the roster to some degree above 56. Every male class to 60+, and my Shai is probably the most time I've invested in. Every single one of them is a shell of their former self, of when I first took interest in them. Every Wednesday morning became a grey hair of stressing over what have they done to the class I'm playing that will screw it over, or alter my established character development in terms of learning the class to its fullest potential. I crossed over my boundaries of not ever playing a female character, and even went as far as playing one not only a female but a child-like one, because of the unique concepts on the mechanics and thought since "it's not like any of the others" it would be immune to the butchering of perpetual changes and alterations. Boy was I wrong. The only difference was, since she was " in experimental stages" they didn't need to announce it. The tell-tale signs of logging in after patch and having a slow and clunky movement speed were my announcements.

    Which brings me to my point. How will a company create a game any different, or better, than BDO, and other Korean games? How will we stop that same trend from coming over to the western gaming culture, a culture that has shifted to the best rewards for the least effort? You see, very few people that played the Shai class even noticed the stealth changes, because very few people tried to play her beyond her descriptive values, nor tried to surpass her perceived capabilities. Instead, they begged for easy smash buttons to achieve things that could have already been done with just a little more effort than the normal character. Eventually, she became no more unique than any of the other classes.
    That summarizes the entire player-base in MMORPGs today. They want to achieve everything at a smash of a button. They're willing to pay for it, or sacrifice challenging playability to "balance" the playing field.

    Capitalizing on people's desires for an easy win. It's not the company's fault. They're out to make big bucks at the player base's expense, the player-base that created this mess.
     
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  4. zeezero

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    I'm on the other end of the spectrum.
    To qualify, I don't distinguish between p2w and p2convenience or any other term used.

    I look at how the game is monetized.
    BDO monetizes every aspect of the game to an extreme degree. Sounds like there are games that are worse, but I wouldn't defend a thief because they only took my wallet and left my watch.

    You are victim blaming. It's the users fault for spending so much money.

    I do not blame the victim. I blame the company, because it is very easy to see how they use manipulative and deceptive tactics. The simplest example is always the loot boxes. BDO are kings at this. They don't show you that the odds of that TET item being .000001% and the cron stone 65%.

    Kids are not capable of understanding how odds work. They see 4 items as options and think it's 1 in 4 odds.
    They've built literal online casinos now, and are protected because you exchange your money at the door to pearls. We don't let kids in real world casinos for a reason.

    I Just see the industry as a whole going in a disgusting direction. I honestly feel it should be regulated because they use predatory deceptive practices to manipulate their player base.

    I started playing BDO at beta. It had compelling graphics and gameplay was above anything else at launch. I've seen how they've lied and backtracked on every item that was never to be in the NA release. I've seen how they've manipulated the MP in order to push pearl sales over the years. I had not played a Korean mmo prior and now understand how they operate. So I will never again.
     
  5. LeCordonBleu

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    Best MMO I ever played was Tera. I played when CoF and MCHM was the endgame and I had a blast. The GvGs, 3v3 Arena, CoF, MCHM, and a plethora of other dungeons, all perfect. I quit 1 or 2 weeks after the Alliance thing came out. I actually wanted to keep playing but all my friends had quit because we were literally the best in the server and we had already achieved everything there was to. #1 in the ranking for CoF, 3v3, most wealth, maxed out gear, prestige, etc.

    After Tera, I think I played filler games with the crew I met on Tera until BnS came out. We played BnS for a bit but a few of us were disappointed in how instanced the game was compared to Tera.

    When BDO came out, me and 3 friends broke off from the group and came over to BDO.

    Ever since then, I've played BDO on and off. I took about 2~3 hiatuses with some of them being rather long.

    During the last hiatus from BDO, i tried to keep myself entertained with singleplayer games but they just couldnt keep me interested for long enough. I am an RPG lover and I couldn't finish Witcher 3, Assassin's Creed Origins, or Shadow of War even though I gave them multiple tries over a long period of time. I need online aspects in my game, I can't just play with AI and follow them around the map with tedious quests (AC and Witcher). As fr Shadow of War, that game just lacked depth and I got super bored due to its repetitive play.

    People talk bad about MMORPGs for how lacking the quests, story, mob AI, and graphics/performance are compared to singleplayer blockbuster games. You gotta keep in mind that MMORPGs are having to load you and an almost unlimited number of players on the same screen. Your computer will explode trying to load 100 players with Witcher 3 graphics. Also, while it's true MMORPG quests are lackluster, it doesn't matter. MMORPGs are not story/quest driven. These are mere side-activities. In MMORPGs, players write their own story, and everything that happens in the game can be looked at as something like a quest. For example, your friend got pked and is asking for your assistance so you have to go save your friend. For me, that's a much more worthwhile quest than anything singleplayer games can provide. Lastly, mob AI is not important in MMORPGs. In MMORPGs where you have to kill tens of thousands of them, mobs having good AI is actually counter-productive. Smart AI mobs in singleplayers work because you kill like 10 at a time and you're never going through a grind session where you're killing mobs after mobs for a long extended period of time.

    Anyways, I didn't side-track. I know OP asked why I play BDO and I broadened my explanation to the whole genre. But these are all the reasons why I play BDO. And on top of these, BDO has things I enjoy that other MMORPGs doesn't/can't provide. Non-target action combat that just looks amazing, the largest and most seamlessly connected world I've ever seen, amazing graphics for an MMORPG, endless number of things to do instead of just grinding, multi-path progression, and more.

    Most importantly, I just enjoy being in the BDO world. Even when I'm not doing much, just being a part of this amazing world gives me that feeling of comfort and ease, as if it's exactly where I belong.

    Fyi, all those hiatuses I took in the past were actually me quitting, not taking a break. However, when I couldn't stay away from BDO long enough and always ended up coming back, they turned into hiatuses. Many of the times, I decided to quit because I wanted to focus more on my real life and in those instances I actually had quit gaming in general, not just BDO.
     
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  6. nolasigns

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    Sometimes, the "victims" are the root of their own demon.
     
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  7. Eltruism

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    No AFK kick.

    Relatively low gold selling ads.

    Combat.

    Depth.
     
  8. LiquidEmotion

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    Most people stick around because of Friends, Investment, and nothing else like BDO yet on the market. If a different company came out with an MMO like bdo but without the bs then I guarantee you that people would jump ship.
     
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  9. Dryed

    Dryed Warrior 63 NA

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    I keep playing mostly because:

    80% because I have invested too much time into it and there is nothing else out there.
    20% because the game does look beautiful and I just like to gamble with progression
     
  10. DafuqYouLookinAt

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    • I love that it's open world and that there is open world PVP. I like the all-in-one package of PVP/PVE/Life Skilling.
    • I find enjoyment in nw/sieges, I've always been really big on guild activities.
    • Friends
    • I'm really big on events and community stuff, I like that there's often a variety of different events to participate in.
    • The character creation is really nice, there are many options and I love the realism it has.
    • Graphics are gorgeous, I upgraded recently and it's so nice to be able to run everything on Remastered.
    • I've invested quite a lot of time into the game lol...Even after playing other games on the side, I appreciate the diversity the game offers.
    • It's not a perfect system or game, there's things I don't like that I wish were different some have changed some needs change but ultimately I enjoy my time here and usually look forward to playing.
     
  11. ChoeChoeTrain

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    Hoping my ass gets isekaied to bdo :^)













    ...and also because of the amount of money invested in this game.
     
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  12. Buddypal

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    What progression?

    I "invested" around ~30k € to intel, nvidia and foxconn since 1996 (i'am a poor guy btw). Progression is physical (Node) and as well developer based (hardware software: backend frontend): at least in the IT world.

    So what's this very progression you specifically talking 'bout? Faith?
     
  13. Dryed

    Dryed Warrior 63 NA

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    I'm talking about progression in game, like gear, etc.
     
  14. Souda

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    300AP my end goal, don't care how long it takes thats why im still here
     
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  15. Dark Eus

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    lets be honest, atm this game its gold compared to the competition! there are aspects that can be improved a lot, but overall as a total its above the rest! and thats what keeps people here or coming back.
     
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  16. GnatGoSplat

    GnatGoSplat DarkKnight 62 NA

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    Boobies. Because I'm a middle-aged teenager.
     
  17. Capitaine Courage

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    The ability to put it in AFK mode and ending up totally forgeting it while actually playing far better games, which are not MMO by the way.
     
  18. Noixi

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    Nothing keeps me playing.
    I stopped months ago to go to AAU which is WAY better.

    I just pop into the threads to get some LMAOs at this game's pathetic state, and lob as much sarcasm, satire, and cynicism into the threads as I can.

    I do plan to pop in when w/w succ is out so I can a good ROFLMAO to see how much worse the game can get.
     
  19. Kubla

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    I love playing games but don't have a lot of time to do it anymore so the AFK features like, fishing horse leveling have a workforce making me money and farm growing crops allows me to still progress in the game and keeps me playing it.
     
  20. Cemil

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    Nothing.

    If i see a new interesting Class coming,
    i install the Game and play the class 6-8 weeks.
    Then its get boring every time and i deinstall till next class comming.

    Its the same with Theme Park MMORPGs like FFXIV.
    With a Expansion or Story patch i play it 1-2 Months and then leave till new content patch.

    I missing RvRvR Battles and waiting for Camelot Unchained.
    Played WvW(GW2) and AvA(ESO) but its not the same.
     

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