Trolololol LOL hahah! How this little innocent thread eventually and certainly turned into just another "P2W" turd. Whatever. The REALLY funny part though is all those "too wise old timers" here, very conveniently forgetting some simple facts from the early days of BDO in NA / EU. Why am I even trying though, when people do indeed have their very own agenda to support. And it is not even "P2W" itself that matters anymore, if it ever mattered. What does matter though is all the BROKEN PROMISES even when the game was not officially released yet, and shortly after and during the course of the first months / year. How, in the NA / EU version, we would NEVER receive certain cash shop items because "our version" would be different and tailored to our "western needs". Fortunately there are still archives (I think?) where one can search and find all the data and "proof" they would need, from the most official sources too, nope I certainly wouldn't direct anyone there for the nth time. It is really sad to see all this crap STILL raging in this very Forum even in the year 2020, in the end it all started a long time ago, it started the wrong way, it kept going the wrong way, and here we are today, and you know what, ALL of us still here supported it one way or another, even by just logging in, so much for all those "free players" and whatnot. Bah!