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When are you guys nerfing Ninja/Kuno?

Discussion in 'PvP' started by Aepex, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. Aepex

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    Ninja/Kuno nerf when?

    Btw Kunos should stop hiding behind OP ninja to hide their opness. All kuno mains are literally worse than Ninja's. At least ninja mains acknowlege that they are op but ****ing kuno main kids always cry like a noob "kuno is sooooo weak compare to ninja" which is totally bs they hit almost hard as Ninja. Its just ninja does way too much dps. Kuno is top #2 nerf list after ninja for real noobs.
     
  2. Armanix

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    Ninja is in a perfect place, all the developers need to do is buff other classes instead of the continues nerfs.
     
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  3. Schönfeld

    Schönfeld KingBoar Warrior 61 EU

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    so you are complaining about ap scaling
     
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  4. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 62 EU

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    yea, perfect place to be nerfed. ;D
     
  5. AZzalor

    AZzalor Hyneria Maehwa EU

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    Can you pls stop throwing kuno and ninja together as one class...there are worlds between ninja and kuno.

    Ninja has more dmg, better mobility, better and more iframes, 2 grabs
    Kuno has...boobs.

    "almost hit as hard as ninja", nice joke. A ninja's serpent ascention can easily oneshot people while the similar counterpart from kuno (wheel of wrath) can barely take 30% of someone's hp.
    The only thing that keeps kuno from being completly trash is her having invisibility and blockjump. Without those 2, which she shares with ninja, she would have nothing left.

    And as a witch i can tell you, both classes are fine if you know how to counter them. Your QQ simply shows a lack of class knowledge and saltiness of getting rekt by certain classes.
     
  6. Exaah

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    they both have stealth

    **** stealth, in every game ever created, **** stealth
     
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  7. LoganSilver

    LoganSilver LoganSilver Mystic 61 NA

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    Why target ninjas and kunos only?

    Nerf witch/wizard when? These classes are OP at large scale. In fact, they are more OP at large scale than ninja is at 1v1.


    Nerf mystic/striker when? These classes are very strong in all forms of pvp. Mystic is even worse than striker as it is a top tier PvE class.


    Nerf sorc when? Crazy iframes. Top tier endgame PvE even post nerfs. Strong duelist.


    Many classes are OP at some aspects of BDO. Sure, some buffs to underpowered classes like valks are needed. And maybe some tuning down if classes OP at specific aspects of the game. But ninjas and kunos aren’t the only problem classes in the game. And this is coming from a witch main with multiple geared 61 alts (including mystic).
     
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  8. Dryed

    Dryed Warrior 61 NA

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    Buff warrior when?
     
  9. MarsKiller

    MarsKiller Ranger 62 EU

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    Buffing other classes to the same level as a other class is still a nerf for that single class. It now only takes twice the amount of work to balance all classes instead of 1 single class.
     
  10. IWalkAlone

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    So is no problem for you to make one class unplayable because its more easy than make things right ?
     
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  11. Armanix

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    This is where you are wrong. That's what is called balancing classes out. Leaving ninja perfect and slightly buffing other classes.
     
  12. MarsKiller

    MarsKiller Ranger 62 EU

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    Uhu no. By buffing other classes they will become harder for a Ninja to fight. (Sound like a nerf to me).

    Okay: you boss say you must go to xxx location. How you get there doesn't matter for him. By driving yourself/plane/helicopter. What would you choose? You likely go for the easiest way with the least amout of effort aslong you get fully paid and can get as fast as possible home.
    Now use that same idea in a devs eye. Go with the hardest way (Buffing all classes) or take the least effort (Nerf 1 class).
     
  13. IWalkAlone

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    If nerfing one class will destroy him is wrong decision, thats why there must be tests.But seen how the things are till now Im sceptic.
     
  14. Xenon

    Xenon Kallitren Ninja 61 NA

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    Them taking the easier of the two hard paths to balancing was how we arrived at the current situation. Instead of tweaking classes one by one, they just decided to gut everybody and rework the pvp cc system. They should be trying to do things the right way, not trying to do whatever's cheaper or easier at this point. BDO prints money anyway, so they should have plenty of leeway to actually work on these things.

    As for op - I've said it before, I'll say it again: They've already nerfed Ninja and Kuno. Why do you make forum posts asking when/if these things are going to happen if you can't even be bothered to read patch notes to know when they happened?
     
  15. DarkKnightMasterRace

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    Kuno is just as broken as ninja if not more, and does the same damage at top tier gear, theres no difference between 280 ninja and 280 kuno. People need to stop being delusional and pretend ninja does so much more dmg when its a bunch of bs, if you do no dmg you have sh*t gear. With that being said their mechanics are the same, tendon cuter and block jump are broken af + super armor grapple.
     
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    AZzalor Hyneria Maehwa EU

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    Guess what, there is no difference in dmg between any classes at 280 ap. everyone oneshots.
     
  17. IWalkAlone

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    You have no idea about the two clasess right ?
     
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  18. Kayray

    Kayray Tenebrarum Musa 62 NA

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    This logic aside, ninja isn't "perfect" in any sense. Play a different class before you start saying this ****. Their damage is overtuned, stealth in limited protections is insane, they are the only viable evasion class atm(mostly due to thrir damage) they have some really solid engages and are top tier in 1v1s as well as large scale. A 220 ninja can kill softcap with caphras in under 2 secs. A softcap ninja can engage on a softcap player w.o them realizing, kill them wirh 2 abilities and leave before anyone can react. This is not including the ninjas having a team behind them. In ehat world is this perfect? Why tou think its balanced is beyond me.
     
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    Nerf Sorc, again? Could you elaborate this. Is there actually a reason to nerf sorc?
     
  20. LoganSilver

    LoganSilver LoganSilver Mystic 61 NA

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    My post wasn’t meant to be read as a nerf X class post. It’s purpose was to say that many other classes are OP in specific aspects. Sorcs are still very strong in 1v1s and are one of the top 2 classes at end game PvE (hystria) despite the earlier nerfs.
     

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