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Why witch and wizard get the favoured treatment from PA?

Discussion in 'Witch/Wizard' started by mickey3333, Aug 7, 2018.

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  1. Epsilonial

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    See. Here's the problem. The only one spreading propaganda here.

    Is you.

    You feel safer on your Witchard then your striker because you are lying. It's actually that simple.
     
  2. Epsilonial

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    He's played neither of them. That's the problem.
     
  3. Mido

    Mido Archer 62 EU

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  4. Itago

    Itago Witch 62 EU

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    So you 49.999 (or lower?) Wizard/Witch is safer than you 50+ Striker that people can PvP against, make sence.

    Claiming that Witchards are broken in large scale is one thing (good luck finding objective evidence of this), but claiming they are broken in small scale and 1vs1 have to mean they are trash (broken)
     
  5. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    and yet u dont main it. tell us more.
     
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  6. Allegame

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    the thing is this :
    witch/wiz are NOT OP, they just bring a lot more VALUE in NW because of the big aoe.
    have you ever tried to be a witch/wiz in nw? have fun staying alive with all the skirmish classes on you that attack from behind (im taking to you fking maehwa/musa/ninja/kuno).
    in 1v1 wiz is ok-ish because of grab, witch is just bottom tier, literally the lowest class in BDO in this aspect. go grind with a witch at any contested spot. tell me if you can keep the spot more than 15 mins :))
    if you guys are getting outgeared by a witch and get 1 shot that doest mean the class is broken.
    ohh and i forgot, TO BE 1 SHOTTED BY A MAGE MEANS YOU DID NOT MOVE IN THE 99999999999 SECONDS OF CASTING THE SPELL. you can always iframe, SA, FG witch/wiz skills because of the long animations.
    and 1 more thing, because of those animations that cannot be canceled, witch/wiz get grabbed easy.
     
  7. Blitzball

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    Propaganda strikes again. Witch isn't the worst 1v1 class, she is in the top 5. She has the highest grab resistance in the game.

    If you get CCed as a Witch by other CC than Warrior/Zerk grabs , it means you use the wrong gems or you don't use your OP guard ( all resist BUFF )
     
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  8. Allegame

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    have you played witch to tell me she is that good? if not, go whine somewhere else.
     
  9. Itago

    Itago Witch 62 EU

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    Try activating that block, half the resist buff is gone by the time you can use another skill...
     
  10. Allegame

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    dont forget that the block has an animation that cannot be canceled. you literally stay like 1.5 seconds to "cast" the block
     
  11. WhySoSeeryus

    WhySoSeeryus Wizard 63 EU

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    LMAO :D

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  12. Exaah

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    are you trolling?
     
  13. Janus

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    him and the OP mickeymouse both
    or are both pseudonyms of POTUS Trump? cause they are clearly either lying their ass off or their IQ is comparable to a piece of toast
     
  14. Mana_Mafia

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    That's so untrue.
     
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    Wollbert Witch 61 EU

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    Ofc i can't. Mystic has been butchered SA-wise.

    On my Witch, i can survive forever. Witch has very reliable SA/FG , OP damage , OP heals , Mana shield , all resistance buff , S-block ( no delay ) , Speed buff , broken OP debuffs , PA , teleport , etc..

    Mystic has nothing. Mediocre damage , no reliable SA/FG , no group utility besides 25s CD vacuum.. She only has good debuffs and that's it.
    But Witch/Wiz have better debuff ( -50% slow ).

    Why so many guilds are looking for Witchard , in your opinion ? Cuz they are OP AF. You can be in a top PVP guild with a 400GS Witchard BUT you can't be in a top PVP guild with a 450GS Mystic. :D
     
  17. Epsilonial

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    Ok. I'm going to let you in on a secret.

    Even if witch resists your grab. She isn't going to kill you in one "Combo". She doesn't have the damage even if she catches you. So you walk up, try to grab, get caught, get CC'd, take about 60% of your life in damage, then run from her. She has no ability to chase you, or do any real damage to you at range. Heal to full. Rinse and repeat.

    Eventually your grab goes through and you one combo her.

    Witch, and Wizard, both suffer from the dual problems in 1v1 that they can't one combo people, and they can't chase people to finish them off. That is why they are universally considered the worst 1v1 classes in the game.
     
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  18. Blitzball

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    That's not true. If someone try to spam pots far from you. Just spam Detonative Flow or Aqua Bomb, he must do something.

    Witchard can one-combo anyone. Cataclysm/Voltaic Pulse into Bolide/Thunder Storm is 100% safe and deals HUGE down attack damage. Then, you use Ritardando/Paralysis when the target is still on the ground and he is basically DEAD.
     
  19. Epsilonial

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    No, they don't. They just back up out of range of it. You, as a witch/wizard, cannot catch them. They just back up, sblock, heal to full, rinse and repeat.

    Witch/Wizard can only one combo low GS people. Around your 400 GS mark. At 520+ GS, when people have caught up to the non-scaling Witch/Wizard level, you don't one combo. I have a 264 AP Witch. I can fully CC chain someone. VP->DF->Yoke and they can get up, and walk away before they die. They take about 60-70% of their life for the combo. What makes Witch/Wizard passable is the fact that they can do this to 5-6 people reliably. Not that their damage is high.

    That explains why you think witch/wizard are OP. You have 400 GS.

    Witch/Wizard are actually overpowered at that GS. However once you get to like, 520-530 GS, they fall off fast. Witch/Wizard gain +80 flat renown at all AP levels. Meaning that they are overpowered until other classes catch up (Although not nearly as overpowered as you think). Meanwhile, the Heals you cite aren't really OP. Mana Shield is unusable at higher GS because people literally one shot your mana bar. The SA/FG are only reliable in NWs, because in 1v1 most classes can kill you through them easily. The debuff is basically a single target ability that's impossible to land on moving targets. Plus you won't actually use it in large scale because no protection.

    But you did hit the one, truly overpowered part of W/W. PA. This is why people stack witch/wizard. The spell is broken, and is still carrying a class that has been nerfed to the ground outside of it.

    BTW no top PvP guild is going to take a 400 GS Witch/Wizard. Or a 450 GS Mystic.
     
  20. Bestkk

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    Because it's the easiest and most played class who sells most costumes.. Even a monkey can play it.
     
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